Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Revealed Here - The Secret masters of the World
If you don't believe in conspiracy theory you can pass this. You can also believe that nobody on either side of theCAGW fraud is beling influenced by payment; that every politician who says "renewables2 are cheaper has done so after looking only at the facts; that nobody ever gave a contract to a friend and that military coups never happen.
For the rest of you - the most important thing about conspiracies is who is conspiring & to do what. Or more accurately who is doing so succesfully, since it is a reasonable guess that almost everybody is doing something for reasons other than what they say.
The main division seems to be between thaose who say the secret conspirators are in government and those who say they are in finance..
Which brings me (via Steve Sailer) to a quote from Network from 1976 which goes, mainly, for finance.
You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and Democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT &T and Dupont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state? Karl Marx? They pull out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, and minimax solutions and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations inexorably determined by the immutable by-laws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale! It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live to see that perfect world in which there is no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company for whom all men will work to serve a common profit and in which all men will own a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you to preach this evangel.
I commented.
For the nations that mastered the world then they don't look so big now.
Whiskey said...
ITT is gone. IBM a shadow of itself. Kodak, gone, basically. Dow, a shadow. So too, US Steel. GM is a bailed out zombie. Chrsyler is owned by the Italians. And people sure are willing to kill each other, Syrians slaughtering Syrians. Meanwhile Catalonia and Scotland are pressing for independence.
DaveinHackensack said...
IBM is the 9th largest company in the world by market cap, and has had an astonishingly long run of success, especially for a IT company. Exxon Mobil is the second largest company in the world by market cap, it will probably recapture #1 in a few years when Apple eventually deflates.
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Despite Davien I think it is undeniable and stonishing how much the top companies have changed while government and nations are pretty much the same. That doesn't prove those companies didn't conspire against us but I submit it does prove they didn't do so successfully.
Of course there could be secret financiers behind all of them who are now fincnciers of Google who really pull the strings but I don't think they hold real power.
As Mao says power comes from the barrel of a gun and governments hold a monopoly on violence. And as I have pointed out so many times, the amount of money taken from us by paraistes in government is enormously more than any company, not given a government monopoly, can hope for.
For the rest of you - the most important thing about conspiracies is who is conspiring & to do what. Or more accurately who is doing so succesfully, since it is a reasonable guess that almost everybody is doing something for reasons other than what they say.
The main division seems to be between thaose who say the secret conspirators are in government and those who say they are in finance..
Which brings me (via Steve Sailer) to a quote from Network from 1976 which goes, mainly, for finance.
You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and Democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT &T and Dupont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state? Karl Marx? They pull out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, and minimax solutions and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations inexorably determined by the immutable by-laws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale! It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live to see that perfect world in which there is no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company for whom all men will work to serve a common profit and in which all men will own a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you to preach this evangel.
I commented.
For the nations that mastered the world then they don't look so big now.
Whiskey said...
ITT is gone. IBM a shadow of itself. Kodak, gone, basically. Dow, a shadow. So too, US Steel. GM is a bailed out zombie. Chrsyler is owned by the Italians. And people sure are willing to kill each other, Syrians slaughtering Syrians. Meanwhile Catalonia and Scotland are pressing for independence.
DaveinHackensack said...
IBM is the 9th largest company in the world by market cap, and has had an astonishingly long run of success, especially for a IT company. Exxon Mobil is the second largest company in the world by market cap, it will probably recapture #1 in a few years when Apple eventually deflates.
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Despite Davien I think it is undeniable and stonishing how much the top companies have changed while government and nations are pretty much the same. That doesn't prove those companies didn't conspire against us but I submit it does prove they didn't do so successfully.
Of course there could be secret financiers behind all of them who are now fincnciers of Google who really pull the strings but I don't think they hold real power.
As Mao says power comes from the barrel of a gun and governments hold a monopoly on violence. And as I have pointed out so many times, the amount of money taken from us by paraistes in government is enormously more than any company, not given a government monopoly, can hope for.
Labels: conspiracies, Government parasitism, Rise of modern fascism