Saturday, May 05, 2007
ELECTION ADDRESS
This is my election address that got me 80 votes in Glasgow. I have been told, probably correctly, that it is far to wordy & makes me look a bit obsessive.
Certainly comparing it with everybody else's, which contains several photos of the candidate & a few lines of promises to be against crime & in favour of spending more, without saying where it is coming from, it is wordy & obsessed with doing things.
Nonetheless I am proud of it. It does contain more in the way of good & new ideas than the other parties put together. Perhaps it is a situation, as the admiring mother said on watching her son's regiment, that "they're all out of step excpt our Neil".
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9% Growth Party – Neil Craig
Election Communication
1st (Regional) Vote
BLACKOUTS ARE COMING
In 2011 Hunterston nuclear power station is due
to close & Scotland will lose 1/6th of our electric power.
In 2015 new EU emission controls will come into effect forcing the closure of our high emission power stations. We will then be down to 2/3rds of current electricity generating capacity.
In 2023 the Torness nuclear station will close & 1/2 of our power will be gone. If we do not replace this, indeed if we do not increase curent capacity in line with our, hopefully, growing economy we are going to have massive & continual blackouts. In Britain we already have 24,000 deaths per year, mainly pensioners, because of fuel poverty but a further unnecessary massive increase in deaths
will be inevitable..
The 9% Growth Party calls for immediate approval in Scotland of proven designs & proven sites & to allow the building of enough reactors to satisfy demand. Whether this is done by government investment or private enterprise is unimportant - whay is important is that it is done before the lights go out.
If we do this the fact that France is currently producing 80% of the electricity it uses from nuclear at 1.3p a unit. This is half what conventional power costs, 1/4 what onshore windmills cost & 1/6th of offshore wind. To do so would virtually end fuel poverty in Scotland & massively improve our economy. Only we are
facing this problem.
PROSPERITY IF WE CHOOSE
In 1989 Ireland, which was then in an economic depression, cut corporation taxes & some regulations - immediately their economy boomed. Since then they have achieved an average of 7% growth per year with a peak of 11%. That is why Ireland has gone from 2/3rd our standard of living to 4/3rds & is now, per capita, as rich as the USA.
Our leaders should have noticed this years ago but it is not to late. If we cut our corporation tax, possibly in several steps, to Ireland' 12.5%, do the same with business rates & look at our regulatory regime, particularly the regulations which prevent housebuilding. If we do this we can reasonably expect to do better than Ireland since we have a stronger tradition of scientific & enterprise.
If we also allow the building of the sort of modern nuclear plants which are producing power in France a 9% growth rate is fully achievable.
9% Growth - A Philosophy
A century ago 80% of the metal hulled ships in the world were Clydebuilt. This is not a plea for going back to shipbuilding it is a plea for Scotland to regain the spirit of science, technology & entrepreneurship which allowed us to build the Clyde as the leader in what were then the world's greatest high technology industries.
Scotland has fallen to a political elite whose reaction to any form of new technology or new ideas are to regulate them out of existence. This drives the fruits of our science abroad, which is why so many of those who developed Dolly the sheep are now working in Singapore.
We wish to see our government support progress not decline further into the Ludditism of windmillery & dependency. We support human progress & absolutely reject the doomsayers who tell us the we have no future. In many was, in both engineering & philosophical terms Scots invented the modern world. The engineering of James Watt & the economic philosophy of Adam Smith should make us proud of our heritage, but also eager to live up to it.
The classic liberalism of Smith is sweeping the world producing growth from Ireland to China. We can & should learn from the nations we have taught.
Scotland's greatest days can be ahead of us IF we choose.
26 Things We Support
1) Stop blackouts. Act before we lose 50% of our electricity.
2) 9% growth using the methods that gave Ireland 7% on average & 10.5% in a good year.
3) Reform planning regulations. In 1907 a house & car cost the same - the difference is that planning regulators restrict housebuilding.
4) Stop subsidising windmills. Save £1 billion.
5) The smoking ban is an illiberal restriction on individual freedom. End it.
6) End fuel poverty. France produces 80% nuclear at 1.3p a unit. We can do the same.
7) A needs based transport policy. The previous Executive were committed to spending 70% of their transport budget on public transport (code for railways) though it makes up only 3% of traffic.
8) Tunnels project. Norway built 740km of tunnels at £7 million per km. We should do the same making it a short drive from Glasgow to Dunoon, Rothesay, Kintyre, Jura, Islay & Mull etc.
9) Fully automate Glasgow's subway allowing it to run at lower costs, greater capacity & 24/7.
10) Fully automate the Glasgow-Edinburgh train with the same effect.
11) Ultimate aim of a fully automated Scots rail transport system.
12) 2% cut in civil servants annually.
13) 2% government efficiency savings. Almost any private business trys to increase efficiency at least that much & there is more scope in Holyrood.
14) Don't spend £610 million digging a tunnel under Edinburgh Airport. Make sure other government projects at least come close to making economic sense.
15) 3p cut in Scots income tax after funding of business tax cuts to provide growth.
16) No new politically correct vindictive bans. The smoking ban was NOT in manifestos at the last election.
17) A Holyrood committee to find & abolish counterproductive laws & regulations.
18) A schools vouchers system.
19) Allow schools to impose discipline.
20) Make a DVD of Scotland's history & post it to Scots, or those with Scots names, over the world. Include links encouraging Scottish tourism.
21) Establish a £20 million X-Prize to encourage space satellite industry to locate in Scotland.
22) Establish an X-Prize foundation funded from the Scots contribution to the lottery to encourage high technology in Scotland.
23) Widen & improve the M8.
24) If Gore's silly film must be shown to Scots schoolchildren let them see the alternate view, AS THE LAW SPECIFICLY REQUIRES.
25) 54% of all money spent in Scotland is government money. Cut this.
26) Instead of knocking down Glasgow's high rise flats they should be given, free of charge, to those occupants who don't prefer to be rehoused.
Certainly comparing it with everybody else's, which contains several photos of the candidate & a few lines of promises to be against crime & in favour of spending more, without saying where it is coming from, it is wordy & obsessed with doing things.
Nonetheless I am proud of it. It does contain more in the way of good & new ideas than the other parties put together. Perhaps it is a situation, as the admiring mother said on watching her son's regiment, that "they're all out of step excpt our Neil".
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9% Growth Party – Neil Craig
Election Communication
1st (Regional) Vote
BLACKOUTS ARE COMING
In 2011 Hunterston nuclear power station is due
to close & Scotland will lose 1/6th of our electric power.
In 2015 new EU emission controls will come into effect forcing the closure of our high emission power stations. We will then be down to 2/3rds of current electricity generating capacity.
In 2023 the Torness nuclear station will close & 1/2 of our power will be gone. If we do not replace this, indeed if we do not increase curent capacity in line with our, hopefully, growing economy we are going to have massive & continual blackouts. In Britain we already have 24,000 deaths per year, mainly pensioners, because of fuel poverty but a further unnecessary massive increase in deaths
will be inevitable..
The 9% Growth Party calls for immediate approval in Scotland of proven designs & proven sites & to allow the building of enough reactors to satisfy demand. Whether this is done by government investment or private enterprise is unimportant - whay is important is that it is done before the lights go out.
If we do this the fact that France is currently producing 80% of the electricity it uses from nuclear at 1.3p a unit. This is half what conventional power costs, 1/4 what onshore windmills cost & 1/6th of offshore wind. To do so would virtually end fuel poverty in Scotland & massively improve our economy. Only we are
facing this problem.
PROSPERITY IF WE CHOOSE
In 1989 Ireland, which was then in an economic depression, cut corporation taxes & some regulations - immediately their economy boomed. Since then they have achieved an average of 7% growth per year with a peak of 11%. That is why Ireland has gone from 2/3rd our standard of living to 4/3rds & is now, per capita, as rich as the USA.
Our leaders should have noticed this years ago but it is not to late. If we cut our corporation tax, possibly in several steps, to Ireland' 12.5%, do the same with business rates & look at our regulatory regime, particularly the regulations which prevent housebuilding. If we do this we can reasonably expect to do better than Ireland since we have a stronger tradition of scientific & enterprise.
If we also allow the building of the sort of modern nuclear plants which are producing power in France a 9% growth rate is fully achievable.
9% Growth - A Philosophy
A century ago 80% of the metal hulled ships in the world were Clydebuilt. This is not a plea for going back to shipbuilding it is a plea for Scotland to regain the spirit of science, technology & entrepreneurship which allowed us to build the Clyde as the leader in what were then the world's greatest high technology industries.
Scotland has fallen to a political elite whose reaction to any form of new technology or new ideas are to regulate them out of existence. This drives the fruits of our science abroad, which is why so many of those who developed Dolly the sheep are now working in Singapore.
We wish to see our government support progress not decline further into the Ludditism of windmillery & dependency. We support human progress & absolutely reject the doomsayers who tell us the we have no future. In many was, in both engineering & philosophical terms Scots invented the modern world. The engineering of James Watt & the economic philosophy of Adam Smith should make us proud of our heritage, but also eager to live up to it.
The classic liberalism of Smith is sweeping the world producing growth from Ireland to China. We can & should learn from the nations we have taught.
Scotland's greatest days can be ahead of us IF we choose.
26 Things We Support
1) Stop blackouts. Act before we lose 50% of our electricity.
2) 9% growth using the methods that gave Ireland 7% on average & 10.5% in a good year.
3) Reform planning regulations. In 1907 a house & car cost the same - the difference is that planning regulators restrict housebuilding.
4) Stop subsidising windmills. Save £1 billion.
5) The smoking ban is an illiberal restriction on individual freedom. End it.
6) End fuel poverty. France produces 80% nuclear at 1.3p a unit. We can do the same.
7) A needs based transport policy. The previous Executive were committed to spending 70% of their transport budget on public transport (code for railways) though it makes up only 3% of traffic.
8) Tunnels project. Norway built 740km of tunnels at £7 million per km. We should do the same making it a short drive from Glasgow to Dunoon, Rothesay, Kintyre, Jura, Islay & Mull etc.
9) Fully automate Glasgow's subway allowing it to run at lower costs, greater capacity & 24/7.
10) Fully automate the Glasgow-Edinburgh train with the same effect.
11) Ultimate aim of a fully automated Scots rail transport system.
12) 2% cut in civil servants annually.
13) 2% government efficiency savings. Almost any private business trys to increase efficiency at least that much & there is more scope in Holyrood.
14) Don't spend £610 million digging a tunnel under Edinburgh Airport. Make sure other government projects at least come close to making economic sense.
15) 3p cut in Scots income tax after funding of business tax cuts to provide growth.
16) No new politically correct vindictive bans. The smoking ban was NOT in manifestos at the last election.
17) A Holyrood committee to find & abolish counterproductive laws & regulations.
18) A schools vouchers system.
19) Allow schools to impose discipline.
20) Make a DVD of Scotland's history & post it to Scots, or those with Scots names, over the world. Include links encouraging Scottish tourism.
21) Establish a £20 million X-Prize to encourage space satellite industry to locate in Scotland.
22) Establish an X-Prize foundation funded from the Scots contribution to the lottery to encourage high technology in Scotland.
23) Widen & improve the M8.
24) If Gore's silly film must be shown to Scots schoolchildren let them see the alternate view, AS THE LAW SPECIFICLY REQUIRES.
25) 54% of all money spent in Scotland is government money. Cut this.
26) Instead of knocking down Glasgow's high rise flats they should be given, free of charge, to those occupants who don't prefer to be rehoused.
Friday, May 04, 2007
WORLD CIVILISATION IS WORSE THAN WORLD NUCLEAR WAR
You say the only alternative to nuclear war is world government. There is only one possibility worse than nuclear war for the survival of modern civilization, and that is world government. Civilization might recover from the damage of a nuclear war, but judging by past static empires in Egypt and China, it might never recover from world government, there being no chance of external intervention. As it is, present governments are only prevented from becoming dominated by crazy ideas that will suppress all opposition by the existence of other governments. The only way a people can be sure that their government is substandard is that it does worse than those of other countries.
From Professor John McCarthy's site, page on current events (some pretty old now). He also writes in favour of invading Iraq - something with which I disagree but primarily on the grounds that international law is the best defence we have against the world rule mentioned. Thus the relative defeat of the US in Iraq makes it much less likely that they will attempt to establish monolithic global rule.
Professor McCarthy's site alwys provides something to think about, perhaps particularly when you disagree.
From Professor John McCarthy's site, page on current events (some pretty old now). He also writes in favour of invading Iraq - something with which I disagree but primarily on the grounds that international law is the best defence we have against the world rule mentioned. Thus the relative defeat of the US in Iraq makes it much less likely that they will attempt to establish monolithic global rule.
Professor McCarthy's site alwys provides something to think about, perhaps particularly when you disagree.
SCOTTISH ELECTION - I LOST & THEN SOME
I came last in Glasgow
OK thats democracy. I must admit that was about as bad as can be. I still believe everything I said was right. That we do face blackouts & general decline & that it is perfectly possible to prevent it but thats the way it goes.
OK thats democracy. I must admit that was about as bad as can be. I still believe everything I said was right. That we do face blackouts & general decline & that it is perfectly possible to prevent it but thats the way it goes.
Wednesday, May 02, 2007
RED ROAD FLATS ARE BEAUTIFUL
The Red Road flats are a group of 8 blocks which, when put up in the early 1970s were the highest & arguably the grandest blocks of flats in Europe. Shortly after that high flats, which politically had been "the answer" to housing became unfashionable & the Council, in the tradition of self fulfilling prophecies, let them slip. Recently the Glasgow Housing Association decided that they should be knocked down & everybody rehoused.
Of the policies in my election address #26 was that rather than knocking down such blocks it would be better to give them to those occupants who don't want rehoused. I decided to do a special leaflet pointing this out & distribute it there & I spent yesterday evening doing so. Partly I was inspired by Matt Quinn's letter reproduced on 27th April here. "The place is in the state it's in because of WILFUL neglect on the part of the City Fathers; no other reason. They let the buildings rot, effectively condoned the violence and drugs and deliberately used the place as a dumping ground"
Having been there I believe there is nothing wrong with the place that could not be fairly easily fixed. I have delivered leaflets in North Kelvinside & I can say that there are closes there, where most of the flats cost 200 K, which are in a worse state of repair. I do not believe there is anything structurally wrong. It is a sin to knock it down.
Give the properties free to those who want to stay (& whom the rest don't have a serious problem with - such is the nature of dumping grounds). Put in place a good commercial factor (Glasgow has lots) with a strong factoring agreement. Get a proper community council going working with the new factors & police.… Give Mr Mo the franchise for a couple of 24 hour shops at the base of the bigger blocks (there are a couple of shops surviving but if actually linked to the blocks themselves people could buy things without having to go outdoors which would make them community centres. Encourage the building of a McDonalds (or Pizza house if we are going to be politically correct) & a pub (with good soundproofing cause sound travels upwards easily). Do a bit of repainting & replastering - not that much. There is a really horrible stagnant pool just behind the nursery school, which I suspect has been there since the earth was piled up during the building - clear it & put up a cheap prefabricated community hall. Also there are places where ownerscould buy 2 flats 7 knock them into one. Not within current rules but perfectly feasible.
All this would create a real community & I guarantee that in 6 months lawyers who work in both Glasgow & Edinburgh (it is near both the Edinburgh & Stirling motorways) would discover it. In 5 years it would be gentrified, an entrepreneur would be building a 3 level car park in the present parking space, Tommy Sheriden would be denouncing the fact that "ordinary working people" could no longer afford to buy (but were selling) penthouse flats & Scottish national heritage, God help us, would be wanting to list the buildings.
Opinions of those I spoke to were mixed. Some thought they were to far gone & should be knocked down, but even they thought they had once been fine. One told me it was a done deal & that the people were powerless because GHA had "already sold the land". And some saw the potential.
As I left it, last night I looked back at the flats. They are always impressive but, against a velvet night sky they stood out as pillars of light & they really are beautiful.
Of the policies in my election address #26 was that rather than knocking down such blocks it would be better to give them to those occupants who don't want rehoused. I decided to do a special leaflet pointing this out & distribute it there & I spent yesterday evening doing so. Partly I was inspired by Matt Quinn's letter reproduced on 27th April here. "The place is in the state it's in because of WILFUL neglect on the part of the City Fathers; no other reason. They let the buildings rot, effectively condoned the violence and drugs and deliberately used the place as a dumping ground"
Having been there I believe there is nothing wrong with the place that could not be fairly easily fixed. I have delivered leaflets in North Kelvinside & I can say that there are closes there, where most of the flats cost 200 K, which are in a worse state of repair. I do not believe there is anything structurally wrong. It is a sin to knock it down.
Give the properties free to those who want to stay (& whom the rest don't have a serious problem with - such is the nature of dumping grounds). Put in place a good commercial factor (Glasgow has lots) with a strong factoring agreement. Get a proper community council going working with the new factors & police.… Give Mr Mo the franchise for a couple of 24 hour shops at the base of the bigger blocks (there are a couple of shops surviving but if actually linked to the blocks themselves people could buy things without having to go outdoors which would make them community centres. Encourage the building of a McDonalds (or Pizza house if we are going to be politically correct) & a pub (with good soundproofing cause sound travels upwards easily). Do a bit of repainting & replastering - not that much. There is a really horrible stagnant pool just behind the nursery school, which I suspect has been there since the earth was piled up during the building - clear it & put up a cheap prefabricated community hall. Also there are places where ownerscould buy 2 flats 7 knock them into one. Not within current rules but perfectly feasible.
All this would create a real community & I guarantee that in 6 months lawyers who work in both Glasgow & Edinburgh (it is near both the Edinburgh & Stirling motorways) would discover it. In 5 years it would be gentrified, an entrepreneur would be building a 3 level car park in the present parking space, Tommy Sheriden would be denouncing the fact that "ordinary working people" could no longer afford to buy (but were selling) penthouse flats & Scottish national heritage, God help us, would be wanting to list the buildings.
Opinions of those I spoke to were mixed. Some thought they were to far gone & should be knocked down, but even they thought they had once been fine. One told me it was a done deal & that the people were powerless because GHA had "already sold the land". And some saw the potential.
As I left it, last night I looked back at the flats. They are always impressive but, against a velvet night sky they stood out as pillars of light & they really are beautiful.
Tuesday, May 01, 2007
GUARDIAN MAKES FALSE CLAIM ABOUT MILLIONS OF DEATHS & CENSORS THE REAL MILLIONS OF DEAD
The Guardian has an article from George Moonbat on how not carrying out all the Green's nostrums to cure global warming (renamed as climate change which requires less specific evidence) is going to kill millions of people. I placed on a response pointing out the simple fact that the "environmental" lobby has already, in pushing the ban on DDT, been directly responsible for the death of 50 million people, largely 3rd world children.
It has not been allowed.
It has not been allowed.
Monday, April 30, 2007
GREEN LEADER SEMI-OFFICIALLY SUPPORTS FREEZING PENSIONERS & ECONOMIC RETREAT
In Scotland on Sunday there was a discussion on the likelihood of the Greens being able to become part of the coalition government. Since this would absolutely negate us replacing the 50% of our power facing retiral I think this would be disastrous. Some of the participants were people I had debated with previously & I knew their tactics:
Stuart Doulgas, Edinburgh / 1:54pm 29 Apr 2007
#58 Neil, 9% Growth party
I wondered how long it would be before you appeared with your false claims (and save me the "prove I'm telling lies" crap.)
I followed the links on your on-line blog (you have a very high opinion of yourself by the way - if you were chocolate you'd eat yourself) and it showed that every time you ask someone for evidence and they provide it you just ignore it and ask a different question.
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you spout rubbish like "blackouts & deaths would certainly be inevitable."
It sounds like the ramblings of the paranoid. It's no wonder the Lib Dems booted you out - imagine being booted out the Lib Dems
66. Neil, 9% Growth party / 3:24pm 29 Apr 2007
Stuart "Douglas" I am not going to spare you the request that you try to prove what you say.
You have been identified as a Green party member paid to post here.
I accept that saying that it is untrue that blackouts will happen if we lose 50% of our power represents the highest standard of honesty & indeed arithmetic of which the Green party is capable. It is also quite obviously a complete, total & absolutely deliberate lie.
Or perhaps you would like to prove that electricity can be produced without generation.
67. Comment Removed this was from a Susan MacLeod (you will see why I say "a" Susan) which was so offensive it was deleted. She asked me to prove my point.
71. Neil, 9% Growth party / 4:17pm 29 Apr 2007
Certainly Susan 67
Here is a Herald discussion board where you & a "Stewart" & a Mr Smith were clearly colluding to do me over & disappeared when I asked
"Yet again - I repeat "And you still haven't come up with a single eco-scare story which, over time, turned out to be truthful." Come on - 1 single catastrophe scare story out of hundreds which turned out to be fully & entirely truthful isn't a lot to ask."
Perhaps you would care to answer now.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/news/display.var.1342...
And here is another where the height of your debating skills was to say that you had "shot me down in flames" previously but made the mistake of saying that you greens were anti-growth after you Mr Stewart had gone to some lengths to assert you weren't.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/news/display.var.1347...
"I look forward to May 4th so we don't have to put up with any more of your annoying drivel and your demented belief that the answer to all of the worlds ills in economic growth."
I replied
Yes. According to Help the aged we have 24,000 UK pensioners dying from fuel poverty each year but our political masters, both official Greens & others want to go entirely to windmillery which is intermittent & would double electricity costs, rather than nuclear which the French have been producing at half our price for decades.
If pointlessly freezing people to death is a good thing then I am a looney & if it isn't then I am the only sane person standing in this election.
Again Susan I would say that getting richer is an answer to quite a few ills. As a Green with whom I have clashed before perhaps you would care to dispute your point with fellow Green Michael Stewart who attacked me for saying that you Greens were, at least in practice & often in theory as well, anti-growth.
Or perhaps, having been shot down in flames you will decline to answer - again."
You did decline then & seem to be trailing smoke here too.
75. Susan MacLeod*, Glasgow / 6:24pm 29 Apr 2007
Neil 9% Growth
Thanks for the helpful links. I've cut and pasted the evidence that someone else provided for you previously which, as always, you chose to ignore.
Evidence of destroyed forests:
http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e55/55a.htm
http://www.acidrain-articles.info/effects-of-acid-rain.html
Current state of the hole in the ozone layer:
http://www.theozonehole.com/ozonehole2006.htm
& 79. Susan MacLeod*, Glasgow / 6:41pm 29 Apr 2007
Neil 9% Growth Party says:
"Greens & others want to go entirely to windmillery which is intermittent & would double electricity costs"
Lie.
Ocean wave, solar and hydro power are also put forward by the Greens, coupled with more efficient homes and energy saving technology.
Neil 9% Growth Party says:
"I would say that getting richer is an answer to quite a few ills."
Wrong!
We as a nation were at our happiest in 1976 when we were poorer and led a less materialistic lifestyle. See link:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0331/p01s03-woeu.html
Neil 9% Growth Party says:
"I am a looney"
I'm not arguing with that
85. Neil, 9% Growth party / 7:43pm 29 Apr 2007
Susan MacLeod* I assume you are a senior Green Party member unlike Susan MacLeod without the asterisk. I take it she was seriously out of her depth for something beyond the hysteria that got her post #67 deleted.
Your #75 says I have not previously answered the links you put up.
Anybody following my previous link back can see that that is a deliberate lie. I did answer all 3 & pointed out that what your co-worker had said they said they didn't. Par for the course with the greens.
79 - Wrong again. "Windmillery" refers to windmills & similar useless nostrums, hence the "ery". All the power sources you mention, except hydro, are intermittent. A 7 year old child would be able to point out the custardheadedness & dishonesty of promising to produce continuous power from intermittent sources. To be fair Nicol Stephen {Liberal Democrat Party leader} is making the same promise but nobody ever accused him of having brains either.
You say that it is a lie that"I would say that getting richer is an answer to quite a few ills."
Well that is indeed what I would say & if it is the official assertion of the Green Party that money solves zero problems we will have to accept that that is your opinion.
Your link to your happiness index proves absolutely nothing since it is not a measure of happiness but of things you wish to measure. For example by that definition measuring loss of farmland as a component of happiness, building homes for people reduces happiness.
Again that is merely Green Party opinion, it is not mine, nor, I suspect that of most people.
Finally you have obviously read the statement you have partially quoted.
"If pointlessly freezing people to death [in the blackouts which will follow the loss of 50% of our power]is a good thing then I am a looney & if it isn't then I am the only sane person standing in this election."
I stand by that. Perhaps "only" is a slight exaggeration but certainly none of the big parties appear sane.
You are now saying, as a senior Green activist on party work, that your party's official opinion is that pointlessly freezing people to death is a good thing. Just as you approve of denying them homes & indeed as your eco-fascist movement has undeniably killed more people than Hitler by bringing about the DDT ban.
http://9percentgrowth.blogspot.com/2007/01/has-green-move...
You are a party of wholly dishonest mass child murdering fascist parasites who would demean the human spirit & drive us back to the caves because you haven't the guts to take on the real world.
88. Susan MacLeod, Glasgow / 7:55pm 29 Apr 2007
# 85 Neil
That is one of the most sickening comments I've ever read. You are an absolute disgrace. How someone who comes out with comments like that could put themselves forward for election is beyond me.
I actually felt physically sick reading that. I can put up with your paranoid ramblings about me but to describe people who care about the environment as mass child murdering fascist parasites is disgusting.
and a few others like that from the the obviously colluding Greens but..
90. Borderman, Borders / 8:15pm 29 Apr 2007
#87 "I thought about reporting your message as unsuitable"
Why would you do that? Why not answer the points raised? Neil obviously feels strongly about them. He's got me interested.
Are you for or against DDT?
#79 "We as a nation were at our happiest in 1976 when we were poorer and led a less materialistic lifestyle."
Wrong. As a child, I was reliably informed by older relatives that things were best during the war.
92. Borderman, Borders / 8:44pm 29 Apr 2007
#91
Oh, come on! On these boards, every day Tony Blair gets accused of being a child-murdering war criminal. No-one talks about "unsuitabalising" those posts. The idea of censoring an unpleasant opinion is far worse than anything Neil said. He also introduced the terms "windmillery" and "custardheadedness" to the discussion. He should get credit for that.
But which part of Neil's statement really upset you?
"dishonest" - he was referring to a political party. It seems fair.
"child murdering" - a bit strong, but will you criticise #89 for accusing SUV drivers of killing children?
"fascist" - none of us like that, but as you've suggested stifling his comments, and another poster reponded to his points with single word utterance such as "wrong" and "lie", I can see where he gets his opinion.
"back to the caves" -- well I share that fear if we're to rely on windmills and wave farms.
Frankly, I share many of Neil's concerns about the Green Party and the Green movement in general. They seem to have a long list of things to ban. And they tell me I will be happier for it
93. Stuart Doulgas, Glasgow / 8:48pm 29 Apr 2007
Borderman
I refuse to argue with you. If you're going to defend someone like him then you have a problem which I think you need to get sorted.
Take care.
97. jayceebee / 11:03pm 29 Apr 2007
Is it true that the jackal is the symbol for the Greens?
101. Neil, 9% Growth Party / 11:22am 30 Apr 2007
I note that in all the outrage from the Greens none of them dispute anything I said on a factual basis.
That the DDT ban has killed more than 50 million people, by allowing malaria to revive as a mass killer is a matter of fact. Iain you may not like DDT but I feel that over 50 milliion 3rd world children's lives is a high price to pay for banning it. Silent Spring is work of fiction not a scientific paper.
You also do not dispute that you have been caught faking & that Susan MacLeod & Susan MacLeod* are not the same posters & that probably many if not all of the posters attacking me are fakes part of a Green party campaign. In particular that Susan* is indeed a party leader & that his claims to be in favour of freezing pensioners to death & the desireability of going back economicly to at least 1976 represent your true agenda. The mask has indeed slipped.
102. Neil, 9% Growth Party / 1:49pm 30 Apr 2007
PS Iain as an "applied chemist" & not just another organised Green Party poster you will be able to confirm that DDT is so harmless to humans that men can & have eaten it by the spoonful without harm.
The "problem" with it is solely that it takes a relatively long time to break down (which is also the benefit since it thus kills flys for far longer).
No further responses - I claim game, set & match
Stuart Doulgas, Edinburgh / 1:54pm 29 Apr 2007
#58 Neil, 9% Growth party
I wondered how long it would be before you appeared with your false claims (and save me the "prove I'm telling lies" crap.)
I followed the links on your on-line blog (you have a very high opinion of yourself by the way - if you were chocolate you'd eat yourself) and it showed that every time you ask someone for evidence and they provide it you just ignore it and ask a different question.
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you spout rubbish like "blackouts & deaths would certainly be inevitable."
It sounds like the ramblings of the paranoid. It's no wonder the Lib Dems booted you out - imagine being booted out the Lib Dems
66. Neil, 9% Growth party / 3:24pm 29 Apr 2007
Stuart "Douglas" I am not going to spare you the request that you try to prove what you say.
You have been identified as a Green party member paid to post here.
I accept that saying that it is untrue that blackouts will happen if we lose 50% of our power represents the highest standard of honesty & indeed arithmetic of which the Green party is capable. It is also quite obviously a complete, total & absolutely deliberate lie.
Or perhaps you would like to prove that electricity can be produced without generation.
67. Comment Removed this was from a Susan MacLeod (you will see why I say "a" Susan) which was so offensive it was deleted. She asked me to prove my point.
71. Neil, 9% Growth party / 4:17pm 29 Apr 2007
Certainly Susan 67
Here is a Herald discussion board where you & a "Stewart" & a Mr Smith were clearly colluding to do me over & disappeared when I asked
"Yet again - I repeat "And you still haven't come up with a single eco-scare story which, over time, turned out to be truthful." Come on - 1 single catastrophe scare story out of hundreds which turned out to be fully & entirely truthful isn't a lot to ask."
Perhaps you would care to answer now.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/news/display.var.1342...
And here is another where the height of your debating skills was to say that you had "shot me down in flames" previously but made the mistake of saying that you greens were anti-growth after you Mr Stewart had gone to some lengths to assert you weren't.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/news/display.var.1347...
"I look forward to May 4th so we don't have to put up with any more of your annoying drivel and your demented belief that the answer to all of the worlds ills in economic growth."
I replied
Yes. According to Help the aged we have 24,000 UK pensioners dying from fuel poverty each year but our political masters, both official Greens & others want to go entirely to windmillery which is intermittent & would double electricity costs, rather than nuclear which the French have been producing at half our price for decades.
If pointlessly freezing people to death is a good thing then I am a looney & if it isn't then I am the only sane person standing in this election.
Again Susan I would say that getting richer is an answer to quite a few ills. As a Green with whom I have clashed before perhaps you would care to dispute your point with fellow Green Michael Stewart who attacked me for saying that you Greens were, at least in practice & often in theory as well, anti-growth.
Or perhaps, having been shot down in flames you will decline to answer - again."
You did decline then & seem to be trailing smoke here too.
75. Susan MacLeod*, Glasgow / 6:24pm 29 Apr 2007
Neil 9% Growth
Thanks for the helpful links. I've cut and pasted the evidence that someone else provided for you previously which, as always, you chose to ignore.
Evidence of destroyed forests:
http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e55/55a.htm
http://www.acidrain-articles.info/effects-of-acid-rain.html
Current state of the hole in the ozone layer:
http://www.theozonehole.com/ozonehole2006.htm
& 79. Susan MacLeod*, Glasgow / 6:41pm 29 Apr 2007
Neil 9% Growth Party says:
"Greens & others want to go entirely to windmillery which is intermittent & would double electricity costs"
Lie.
Ocean wave, solar and hydro power are also put forward by the Greens, coupled with more efficient homes and energy saving technology.
Neil 9% Growth Party says:
"I would say that getting richer is an answer to quite a few ills."
Wrong!
We as a nation were at our happiest in 1976 when we were poorer and led a less materialistic lifestyle. See link:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0331/p01s03-woeu.html
Neil 9% Growth Party says:
"I am a looney"
I'm not arguing with that
85. Neil, 9% Growth party / 7:43pm 29 Apr 2007
Susan MacLeod* I assume you are a senior Green Party member unlike Susan MacLeod without the asterisk. I take it she was seriously out of her depth for something beyond the hysteria that got her post #67 deleted.
Your #75 says I have not previously answered the links you put up.
Anybody following my previous link back can see that that is a deliberate lie. I did answer all 3 & pointed out that what your co-worker had said they said they didn't. Par for the course with the greens.
79 - Wrong again. "Windmillery" refers to windmills & similar useless nostrums, hence the "ery". All the power sources you mention, except hydro, are intermittent. A 7 year old child would be able to point out the custardheadedness & dishonesty of promising to produce continuous power from intermittent sources. To be fair Nicol Stephen {Liberal Democrat Party leader} is making the same promise but nobody ever accused him of having brains either.
You say that it is a lie that"I would say that getting richer is an answer to quite a few ills."
Well that is indeed what I would say & if it is the official assertion of the Green Party that money solves zero problems we will have to accept that that is your opinion.
Your link to your happiness index proves absolutely nothing since it is not a measure of happiness but of things you wish to measure. For example by that definition measuring loss of farmland as a component of happiness, building homes for people reduces happiness.
Again that is merely Green Party opinion, it is not mine, nor, I suspect that of most people.
Finally you have obviously read the statement you have partially quoted.
"If pointlessly freezing people to death [in the blackouts which will follow the loss of 50% of our power]is a good thing then I am a looney & if it isn't then I am the only sane person standing in this election."
I stand by that. Perhaps "only" is a slight exaggeration but certainly none of the big parties appear sane.
You are now saying, as a senior Green activist on party work, that your party's official opinion is that pointlessly freezing people to death is a good thing. Just as you approve of denying them homes & indeed as your eco-fascist movement has undeniably killed more people than Hitler by bringing about the DDT ban.
http://9percentgrowth.blogspot.com/2007/01/has-green-move...
You are a party of wholly dishonest mass child murdering fascist parasites who would demean the human spirit & drive us back to the caves because you haven't the guts to take on the real world.
88. Susan MacLeod, Glasgow / 7:55pm 29 Apr 2007
# 85 Neil
That is one of the most sickening comments I've ever read. You are an absolute disgrace. How someone who comes out with comments like that could put themselves forward for election is beyond me.
I actually felt physically sick reading that. I can put up with your paranoid ramblings about me but to describe people who care about the environment as mass child murdering fascist parasites is disgusting.
and a few others like that from the the obviously colluding Greens but..
90. Borderman, Borders / 8:15pm 29 Apr 2007
#87 "I thought about reporting your message as unsuitable"
Why would you do that? Why not answer the points raised? Neil obviously feels strongly about them. He's got me interested.
Are you for or against DDT?
#79 "We as a nation were at our happiest in 1976 when we were poorer and led a less materialistic lifestyle."
Wrong. As a child, I was reliably informed by older relatives that things were best during the war.
92. Borderman, Borders / 8:44pm 29 Apr 2007
#91
Oh, come on! On these boards, every day Tony Blair gets accused of being a child-murdering war criminal. No-one talks about "unsuitabalising" those posts. The idea of censoring an unpleasant opinion is far worse than anything Neil said. He also introduced the terms "windmillery" and "custardheadedness" to the discussion. He should get credit for that.
But which part of Neil's statement really upset you?
"dishonest" - he was referring to a political party. It seems fair.
"child murdering" - a bit strong, but will you criticise #89 for accusing SUV drivers of killing children?
"fascist" - none of us like that, but as you've suggested stifling his comments, and another poster reponded to his points with single word utterance such as "wrong" and "lie", I can see where he gets his opinion.
"back to the caves" -- well I share that fear if we're to rely on windmills and wave farms.
Frankly, I share many of Neil's concerns about the Green Party and the Green movement in general. They seem to have a long list of things to ban. And they tell me I will be happier for it
93. Stuart Doulgas, Glasgow / 8:48pm 29 Apr 2007
Borderman
I refuse to argue with you. If you're going to defend someone like him then you have a problem which I think you need to get sorted.
Take care.
97. jayceebee / 11:03pm 29 Apr 2007
Is it true that the jackal is the symbol for the Greens?
101. Neil, 9% Growth Party / 11:22am 30 Apr 2007
I note that in all the outrage from the Greens none of them dispute anything I said on a factual basis.
That the DDT ban has killed more than 50 million people, by allowing malaria to revive as a mass killer is a matter of fact. Iain you may not like DDT but I feel that over 50 milliion 3rd world children's lives is a high price to pay for banning it. Silent Spring is work of fiction not a scientific paper.
You also do not dispute that you have been caught faking & that Susan MacLeod & Susan MacLeod* are not the same posters & that probably many if not all of the posters attacking me are fakes part of a Green party campaign. In particular that Susan* is indeed a party leader & that his claims to be in favour of freezing pensioners to death & the desireability of going back economicly to at least 1976 represent your true agenda. The mask has indeed slipped.
102. Neil, 9% Growth Party / 1:49pm 30 Apr 2007
PS Iain as an "applied chemist" & not just another organised Green Party poster you will be able to confirm that DDT is so harmless to humans that men can & have eaten it by the spoonful without harm.
The "problem" with it is solely that it takes a relatively long time to break down (which is also the benefit since it thus kills flys for far longer).
No further responses - I claim game, set & match
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We are repeatedly assured by the media & politicians that the "debate is over" & that there is a "scientific consensus" about warming not only among politicians & journalists but also among scientists.
It is difficult to have a consensus that excludes the leader of your organisation.
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VATICAN CITY, APRIL 27, 2007 (Zenit.org).- Scientists might not have human behavior to blame for global warming, according to the president of the World Federation of Scientists.
Antonio Zichichi, who is also a retired professor of advanced physics at the University of Bologna, made this assertion today in an address delivered to an international congress sponsored by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.
The conference, which ends today, is examining "Climate Change and Development."
Zichichi pointed out that human activity has less than a 10% impact on the environment.
He also cited that models used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) are incoherent and invalid from a scientific point of view. The U.N. commission was founded in 1988 to evaluate the risk of climate change brought on by humans.
Zichichi, who is also member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, showed that the mathematical models used by the IPCC do not correspond to the criteria of the scientific method.
He said that the IPCC used "the method of 'forcing' to arrive at their conclusions that human activity produces meteorological variations."
The physicist affirmed that on the basis of actual scientific fact "it is not possible to exclude the idea that climate changes can be due to natural causes," and that it is plausible that "man is not to blame."
To that end, Zichichi explained how the motor of meteorology depends on natural phenomena. He gave as an example the "energy sent by the sun and volcanic activity that spits out lava and enormous quantities of substances in the atmosphere."
He also reminded those present that 500,000 years ago the Earth lost the North and South Poles four times. The poles disappeared and reformed four times, he said.
Zichichi said that in the end he is not convinced that global warming is caused by the increase of emissions of "greenhouse gases" produced through human activity.
Climate changes, he said, depend in a significant way on the fluctuation of cosmic rays.
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EDITOR'S NOTE: Antonio Zichichi, the discoverer of nuclear antimatter, is on of the world's most eminent physicists; see
http://www.ccsem.infn.it/em/zichichi/short_bio.html
