Thursday, August 07, 2008
BEIJING PROTEST - MEDIA CIRCUS
The Scotsman & everybody else has been reporting heavily on the prat who shimmied up a lamppost with a Tibet banner. Indeed last night News at ten assured us that 2 massive blows had been struck against the Chinese Olympics by President Bush making a speech & by this poster. I commented comparing that the banner hung up was in English. It was therefore not aimed at reaching the Chinese but was purely a western media propaganda stunt. Also mentioning the refusal of the media to report our government's involvement in atrocities in Kosovo & that "I would also be interested to see who paid his fare? Was it him or was it "Students for a free Tibet" & who funds them. Do they pass the hat round the student ref or is it, like the finance for the "democratic opposition" in so many countries, ultimately from western governments?
At the very least that is a question healthy news media would ask"
I got this innocent reply:
139 Yeah1,07/08/2008 13:15:48
#132
"Does anybody seriously claim that some Brit putting up a banner in China is a more important story than Blair & Brown raping thousands of children & dissecting 300-1,300 teenagers?"
I'm sure if Blair and Brown really had raped and 'dissected' thousands of children then that would be front page news around the world.
That story is a figment of your warped imagination however, the media will generally stick to reporting things that have actually happened rather than things that are made up by weirdos like you.
However the reason I am putting this up here is something the same poster (comment 161) said, which I had missed in the main article
if you read the article you will see that he does actually have a job, which he is currently on a leave of absence from: "he was employed as an environmental justice project officer by Friends of the Earth and is currently on leave of absence."
This struck a chord with a previous article I have done here on FoE being largely government funded. I replied (#176)
Actually I said it was teenagers they dissected. They kidnapped raped & sold schoolgirls. Your belief that it would have been front page news, or even reported at all, either around the world or even in this paper depends on the assumption that the media can be relied on to tell the truth.
http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/b92032608.htm
http://www.health-now.org/site/article.php?menuId=17&articleId=218
So clearly I was right on both charges & your certainty as the the possibility of the media not censoring atrocities was unjustified.
Yeah 160 inadvertently confirms my other suggestion that he was being funded by western governments by pointing out that this numpty got leave of absence from his day job with Friends of the Earth. Friends of the Earth, at least in its European incarnation, is overwhelmingly funded by the EU & member governments., while lobbying them for ever more EU eco-fascist regulations.
I think we may reasonably take this as proof of the media, government & politically approved special interest groups acting together to fabricate propaganda & suppress the real truth so that government can produce hobgoblins, be it global warming or China to keep us obedient.
Incidentally the 2nd link above comes from a previous article of mine on our KLA allies kidnapping children There were 2 links on that article, The first, a Reuters report, is quoted in full. The reason I give for doing this is that it is becoming increasingly difficult to find it anywhere on the net. Since then the first link held by the university of Buffalo has become "invalid". Google list 3 sites in the world containing the words on my article . A Place to Stand isn't one of them!
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But where they will outmanoeuvre you is the basic fact that the Chinese gummint is pretty bloody awful - it is not difficult to now present you as pro-Chinese communist, and at that point you might as well give up.
In terms of awfulness nowadays it scores pretty low. Even excluding our foreign policy genocide I don't think China is as actively oppressive as NATO member Turkey. Of course it gets a worse press here but that is the point.
As communist hobgoblins they aren't very communist either.
As communist hobgoblins they aren't very communist either.
Your research abilities on the subject of our (Western) leaders' war crimes in the Balkans are quite simply amazing.
You have the knack of linking two seemingly unconnected subjects - Western government sonsorship of eco-fascism and war crimes.
That is to say, you have irrefutably linked Western government funding and sponsorship of the eco-fascist movement and the sponsorship and funding of the Albanian KLA Nazis who perpetrated the organ removal/vivisection atrocities against the Christian Serbs in Kosovo and Albania while our Western news media on both sides of the Atlantic covered up these heinous crimes for over 9 years.
I have not seen any internet blogger or political commentator achieve this.Well done, Neil Craig.
We clearly need a brand new round of Nuremberg type trials for our leaders - both current and former.
Here is what the late Walter Rockler(who by the way just happened to be one of the original Nuremberg prosecutors from 1945 to 1949 of major German Nazi war criminals) wrote as an Op-Ed piece for the Chicago Tribune in late May,1999.
Rockler rails against Bill Clinton's and NATO leaders' war crimes perpetrated upon thousands of innocent civilians in Serbia/Kosovo and our deliberate bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade...
WAR CRIMES LAW APPLIES TO U.S. TOO
Walter J. Rockler, a Washington lawyer, was a prosecutor at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trial.
As justification for our murderously destructive bombing campaign in Yugoslavia, it is of course necessary for the U.S. to charge that the Serbs have engaged in inhuman conduct, and that President Slobodan Milosevic, the head Serb demon, is a war criminal almost without peer.
President Clinton assures us of this in frequent briefings, during which he engages in rhetorical combat with Milosevic. But shouting "war criminal" only emphasizes that those who live in glass houses should be careful about throwing stones.
We have engaged in a flagrant military aggression, ceaselessly attacking a small country primarily to demonstrate that we run the world. The rationale that we are simply enforcing international morality, even if it were true, would not excuse the military aggression and widespread killing that it entails. It also does not lessen the culpability of the authors of this aggression.
As a primary source of international law, the judgment of the Nuremberg Tribunal in the 1945-1946 case of the major Nazi war criminals is plain and clear. Our leaders often invoke and praise that judgment, but obviously have not read it. The International Court declared:
To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime, it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.
At Nuremberg, the United States and Britain pressed the prosecution of Nazi leaders for planning and initiating aggressive war. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, the head of the American prosecution staff, asserted "that launching a war of aggression is a crime and that no political or economic situation can justify it." He also declared that "if certain acts in violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us."
The United Nations Charter views aggression similarly. Articles 2(4) and (7) prohibit interventions in the domestic jurisdiction of any country and threats of force or the use of force by one state against another. The General Assembly of the UN in Resolution 2131, "Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Intervention," reinforced the view that a forceful military intervention in any country is aggression and a crime without justification.
Putting a "NATO" label on aggressive policy and conduct does not give that conduct any sanctity. This is simply a perversion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, formed as a defensive alliance under the UN Charter. The North Atlantic Treaty pledged its signatories to refrain from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations, and it explicitly recognized "the primary responsibility of the Security Council (of the United Nations) for the maintenance of international peace and security." Obviously, in bypassing UN approval for the current bombing, the U.S. and NATO have violated this basic obligation.
From another standpoint of international law, the current conduct of the bombing by the United States and NATO constitutes a continuing war crime. Contrary to the beliefs of our war planners, unrestricted air bombing is barred under international law. Bombing the "infrastructure" of a country-- waterworks, electricity plants, bridges, factories, television and radio locations--is not an attack limited to legitimate military objectives. Our bombing has also caused an excessive loss of life and injury to civilians, which violates another standard. We have now killed hundreds, if not thousands, of Serbs, Montenegrins and Albanians, even some Chinese, in our pursuit of humanitarian ideals.
In addition to shredding the UN Charter and perverting the purpose of NATO, Clinton also has violated at least two provisions of the United States Constitution. Under Article I, Section 8, of the Constitution, Congress, not the president, holds the power to declare war and to punish offenses against the law of nations. Alexander Hamilton in The Federalist No. 69 pointed out one difference between a monarchy and the presidency under the new form of government: A king could use his army as he pleased; the president would have no such unlimited power. Under Article VI of the Constitution, treaties, far from being mere scraps of paper as we now deem them to be, are part of the supreme law of the United States. Of course, these days a supine Congress, fascinated only by details of sexual misconduct, can hardly be expected to enforce constitutional requirements.
Nor can a great deal be expected from the media. Reporters rely on the controlled handouts of the State Department, Pentagon and NATO, seeing their duty as one of adding colorful details to official intimations of Serb atrocities. Thus, the observation of a NATO press relations officer that a freshly plowed field, seen from 30,000 feet up, might be the site of a massacre has been disseminated as news.
The notion that humanitarian violations can be redressed with random destruction and killing by advanced technological means is inherently suspect. This is mere pretext for our arrogant assertion of dominance and power in defiance of international law. We make the non-negotiable demands and rules, and implement them by military force. It is all remindful of Henrik Ibsen's "Don't use that foreign word `ideals.' We have that excellent native word `lies.' "
Copyright 1998, The Tribune Company. Unauthorized reproduction prohibited. The Tribune Company archives are stored on a SAVE (tm) newspaper library system from MediaStream, Inc., a Knight-Ridder Inc. company.
http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosovo_crisis/html/0523_ct.html
You have the knack of linking two seemingly unconnected subjects - Western government sonsorship of eco-fascism and war crimes.
That is to say, you have irrefutably linked Western government funding and sponsorship of the eco-fascist movement and the sponsorship and funding of the Albanian KLA Nazis who perpetrated the organ removal/vivisection atrocities against the Christian Serbs in Kosovo and Albania while our Western news media on both sides of the Atlantic covered up these heinous crimes for over 9 years.
I have not seen any internet blogger or political commentator achieve this.Well done, Neil Craig.
We clearly need a brand new round of Nuremberg type trials for our leaders - both current and former.
Here is what the late Walter Rockler(who by the way just happened to be one of the original Nuremberg prosecutors from 1945 to 1949 of major German Nazi war criminals) wrote as an Op-Ed piece for the Chicago Tribune in late May,1999.
Rockler rails against Bill Clinton's and NATO leaders' war crimes perpetrated upon thousands of innocent civilians in Serbia/Kosovo and our deliberate bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade...
WAR CRIMES LAW APPLIES TO U.S. TOO
Walter J. Rockler, a Washington lawyer, was a prosecutor at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trial.
As justification for our murderously destructive bombing campaign in Yugoslavia, it is of course necessary for the U.S. to charge that the Serbs have engaged in inhuman conduct, and that President Slobodan Milosevic, the head Serb demon, is a war criminal almost without peer.
President Clinton assures us of this in frequent briefings, during which he engages in rhetorical combat with Milosevic. But shouting "war criminal" only emphasizes that those who live in glass houses should be careful about throwing stones.
We have engaged in a flagrant military aggression, ceaselessly attacking a small country primarily to demonstrate that we run the world. The rationale that we are simply enforcing international morality, even if it were true, would not excuse the military aggression and widespread killing that it entails. It also does not lessen the culpability of the authors of this aggression.
As a primary source of international law, the judgment of the Nuremberg Tribunal in the 1945-1946 case of the major Nazi war criminals is plain and clear. Our leaders often invoke and praise that judgment, but obviously have not read it. The International Court declared:
To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime, it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.
At Nuremberg, the United States and Britain pressed the prosecution of Nazi leaders for planning and initiating aggressive war. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, the head of the American prosecution staff, asserted "that launching a war of aggression is a crime and that no political or economic situation can justify it." He also declared that "if certain acts in violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us."
The United Nations Charter views aggression similarly. Articles 2(4) and (7) prohibit interventions in the domestic jurisdiction of any country and threats of force or the use of force by one state against another. The General Assembly of the UN in Resolution 2131, "Declaration on the Inadmissibility of Intervention," reinforced the view that a forceful military intervention in any country is aggression and a crime without justification.
Putting a "NATO" label on aggressive policy and conduct does not give that conduct any sanctity. This is simply a perversion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, formed as a defensive alliance under the UN Charter. The North Atlantic Treaty pledged its signatories to refrain from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations, and it explicitly recognized "the primary responsibility of the Security Council (of the United Nations) for the maintenance of international peace and security." Obviously, in bypassing UN approval for the current bombing, the U.S. and NATO have violated this basic obligation.
From another standpoint of international law, the current conduct of the bombing by the United States and NATO constitutes a continuing war crime. Contrary to the beliefs of our war planners, unrestricted air bombing is barred under international law. Bombing the "infrastructure" of a country-- waterworks, electricity plants, bridges, factories, television and radio locations--is not an attack limited to legitimate military objectives. Our bombing has also caused an excessive loss of life and injury to civilians, which violates another standard. We have now killed hundreds, if not thousands, of Serbs, Montenegrins and Albanians, even some Chinese, in our pursuit of humanitarian ideals.
In addition to shredding the UN Charter and perverting the purpose of NATO, Clinton also has violated at least two provisions of the United States Constitution. Under Article I, Section 8, of the Constitution, Congress, not the president, holds the power to declare war and to punish offenses against the law of nations. Alexander Hamilton in The Federalist No. 69 pointed out one difference between a monarchy and the presidency under the new form of government: A king could use his army as he pleased; the president would have no such unlimited power. Under Article VI of the Constitution, treaties, far from being mere scraps of paper as we now deem them to be, are part of the supreme law of the United States. Of course, these days a supine Congress, fascinated only by details of sexual misconduct, can hardly be expected to enforce constitutional requirements.
Nor can a great deal be expected from the media. Reporters rely on the controlled handouts of the State Department, Pentagon and NATO, seeing their duty as one of adding colorful details to official intimations of Serb atrocities. Thus, the observation of a NATO press relations officer that a freshly plowed field, seen from 30,000 feet up, might be the site of a massacre has been disseminated as news.
The notion that humanitarian violations can be redressed with random destruction and killing by advanced technological means is inherently suspect. This is mere pretext for our arrogant assertion of dominance and power in defiance of international law. We make the non-negotiable demands and rules, and implement them by military force. It is all remindful of Henrik Ibsen's "Don't use that foreign word `ideals.' We have that excellent native word `lies.' "
Copyright 1998, The Tribune Company. Unauthorized reproduction prohibited. The Tribune Company archives are stored on a SAVE (tm) newspaper library system from MediaStream, Inc., a Knight-Ridder Inc. company.
http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosovo_crisis/html/0523_ct.html
Thanks. In this case I was pleased to spot the way in which this anti-Chinese photo-op linked to western funding of Friends of the Earth. I considered that a real "don't look at the man behind the curtain" moment.
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