Friday, December 29, 2006
MORE COMMENTS
A sensible article on 4 x 4 emissions & trains http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=1873132006
The right to vote http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2006/12/prisoners-and-right-to-vote.html
Growth http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm
Waste collections http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/letters.cfm?id=1872922006
Forth crossing/tunnel http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1874752006
Forth crossing & tunnels http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=1880392006
Aging http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=1894072006
Child abuse http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2006/12/how-they-are-stealing-spirit-of.html
Energy costs http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/letters.cfm?id=1900272006
SNP support a Forth Tunnel http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1900212006
Oil wealth http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1899552006
Global epidemics http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1899952006
Government waste http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1905432006
Presidential hopes http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1905012006
CIA "predicted" Yugoslav break up http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1905162006
Biased BBC http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2006/12/they-are-like-ravening-beasts.html
Terrorist scares http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2006/12/sir-ian-blairs-scare-tactics-must-not.html#links
Trams & monorails http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/letters.cfm?id=1917262006
Russians ahead in space http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1916842006
Forecasts of higher taxes http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1919942006
Polar Bear "extinction" is Bull http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1920622006
£982 million extra regulations http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1924862006
SNP prospects http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=1926602006
Green hopes http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=1926442006
The right to vote http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2006/12/prisoners-and-right-to-vote.html
Growth http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm
Waste collections http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/letters.cfm?id=1872922006
Forth crossing/tunnel http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1874752006
Forth crossing & tunnels http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=1880392006
Aging http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=1894072006
Child abuse http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2006/12/how-they-are-stealing-spirit-of.html
Energy costs http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/letters.cfm?id=1900272006
SNP support a Forth Tunnel http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1900212006
Oil wealth http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1899552006
Global epidemics http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1899952006
Government waste http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1905432006
Presidential hopes http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1905012006
CIA "predicted" Yugoslav break up http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1905162006
Biased BBC http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2006/12/they-are-like-ravening-beasts.html
Terrorist scares http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2006/12/sir-ian-blairs-scare-tactics-must-not.html#links
Trams & monorails http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/letters.cfm?id=1917262006
Russians ahead in space http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1916842006
Forecasts of higher taxes http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1919942006
Polar Bear "extinction" is Bull http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1920622006
£982 million extra regulations http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1924862006
SNP prospects http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=1926602006
Green hopes http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=1926442006
Wednesday, December 27, 2006
NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH COUNCIL SEEKS DEBATE WITH SCEPTICS
The Boss of the National Environment Research Council, Alan Thorpe has called for an open public & online debate to disprove the position of sceptics on warming. That is a very welcome development when one bears in mind that such scientific luminaries as a former Moderator of the Church of Scotland have spoken against allowing debate, since the scientific case is "settled". One might even hope that this debate might be hosted by the BBC. By recently hiring David Attenborough to assure us that, such is current sea rise, that in 20 years much of Norfolk will be underwater yet refusing airtime to scientists who are actually measuring it & could say that this is , quite decidedly not so the BBC has strayed from impartiality. Hosting an open debate would, if not remove the appearance of propagandising from the allegation (assuming Norfolk doesn't sink by 2026), at least dilute it.
Mr Thorpe's Council however, being committed to "impartial environmental research" (it says so on their website) is clearly in a position to put the catastrophe enthusiast's position robustly. The site does not explain how it receives funding - presumably not from oil companies or organisations committed to a belief in warming either, or how it ensures, when awarding grants, that it maintains an impartial balance in research.
According to the story repeated almost verbatim in a number of papers he believes that the computer models on the enthusiasts side have been consistently proven correct. I would be very interested in reading his explanation of how the Hockey Stick theory which predicted a continuous fast rise since the 1990s has been proven accurate by the figures showing temperature has been lower than 1998 for 5 of the succeeding years. He would probably also be able to explain how it was that the Hockey Stick computer programme, the pride of the IPCC's report was, when tested by Stephen McIntyre, able to produce exactly the same warming prediction virtually whatever figures were put into it.
Having myself contributed to this debate in the lettercolumn & online in the Scotsman (the online comments, which are not selected by staff, have been overwhelmingly of the sceptical view) I look forward, with some enthusiasm, to see whether Mr Thorpe's "impartial" future contributions, so heavily trailed by newspapers, prove convincing.
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The original article
I hae ma douts.
Mr Thorpe's Council however, being committed to "impartial environmental research" (it says so on their website) is clearly in a position to put the catastrophe enthusiast's position robustly. The site does not explain how it receives funding - presumably not from oil companies or organisations committed to a belief in warming either, or how it ensures, when awarding grants, that it maintains an impartial balance in research.
According to the story repeated almost verbatim in a number of papers he believes that the computer models on the enthusiasts side have been consistently proven correct. I would be very interested in reading his explanation of how the Hockey Stick theory which predicted a continuous fast rise since the 1990s has been proven accurate by the figures showing temperature has been lower than 1998 for 5 of the succeeding years. He would probably also be able to explain how it was that the Hockey Stick computer programme, the pride of the IPCC's report was, when tested by Stephen McIntyre, able to produce exactly the same warming prediction virtually whatever figures were put into it.
Having myself contributed to this debate in the lettercolumn & online in the Scotsman (the online comments, which are not selected by staff, have been overwhelmingly of the sceptical view) I look forward, with some enthusiasm, to see whether Mr Thorpe's "impartial" future contributions, so heavily trailed by newspapers, prove convincing.
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The original article
Alan Thorpe, chief executive of the Natural Environment Research Council, said yesterday he planned to defeat so-called 'deniers', first on-line and later at a public debate.This has gone out to a number of newspapers, the BBC Mr Thorpe's council. I will link if it turns out Mr Thorpe has the intestinal fortitude to stand by the gauntlet he has thrown down or even if I, or anybody else on the opposite side of the "debate" these papers are calling for, get any coverage.
...........'Yet a handful of scientists, politicians and writers are still claiming humans are not responsible at all. We have got to kill off this notion so we can get on with the real work: protecting ourselves from future climate change. That is why I am challenging these deniers.............'If you look at the computer models we created years ago, only those that take account of increases in carbon dioxide emissions have provided forecasts that have been accurate. The importance of carbon emissions is accepted by just about every scientist today, except for this handful of deniers. So let's see their figures and let us judge them when we have analysed their data.'
I hae ma douts.
Sunday, December 24, 2006
WHEN SCIENCE GOES WRONG
An interesting article here from Nunberwatch on the the way in which scientists can, sometimes with a good conscience, fiddle their figures by such things as not counting unexpected results. Sometimes this does no harm - it has been proven on statistical grounds that Gregor Mendel the discoverer of the laws of inheritance must have tidied up his figures. Sometimes, particularly when there is strong political pressure, it may cause the acceptance of something which is untrue. I have commented previously on how the initial "evidence" for passive smoking being harmful depended on only 7 of 40 studies showing a relationship but they all showed a strong relationship which brought up the average.
Sometimes it has led to the destruction of the careers of those who refused to fix their results. The principles of science may be pure but scientists can have the same frailties as the rest of us. The article ends:
Sometimes it has led to the destruction of the careers of those who refused to fix their results. The principles of science may be pure but scientists can have the same frailties as the rest of us. The article ends:
in 1989 Gordon Stewart wrote a paper challenging the official view that AIDs cases in the UK would reach tens of thousands by 1992. His paper remained unpublished during a four-year correspondence in which referees wrote comments such as "Why should I read a paper by someone who believes the earth is flat?"
Stewart's paper, which was rejected by Nature, Science, the New England Journal of Medicine and the British Medical Journal, was proved to be correct to within a remarkable 10%. The "experts" were out by several orders of magnitude. The establishment ignored their shame and simply moved on. The same process is now taking place with the Global Warming Myth. The reward for conforming is millions of dollars worth of grants. The penalty for dissenting is being relegated to a remote corner of the World Wide Web (among the cranks and pornographers), which is the last home of scholarship, as practised by such lone battlers as John Daly.